Conversations with History: Institute
of International Studies, UC Berkeley
This interview is part of the Institute's "Conversations
with History" series, and uses Internet technology to share with the
public Berkeley's distinction as a global forum for ideas.
Welcome to a Conversation with History. I'm Harry
Kreisler of the Institute of International Studies. Our guest today
is Ian Lustick who is the Bess M. Heyman Professor of Political Science
at the University of Pennsylvania. His
new book is entitled Trapped in the War On Terror. Ian has been
a consultant to every administration since President Carter either at the
mid level of the bureaucracy or even as high as the Office of the President.
- Entering the Debate on Terrorism ... experience in government ...
post-9/11 conference for law enforcement, defense, intelligence agencies
... ill-advised policies suggest ulterior motives ... unintended effects
- The Phantom War ... trillions of dollars spent ... pre-9/11 hawks
for Iraq war ... post-9/11 turning of the tide ... the juggernaut of the
War on Terror ... framing the questions determines the answers ... hijacking
the Madisonian system of government ... "red-teaming" exercises produce hopeless
scenarios ... the real accomplishment of al Qaeda
- False Leads ... loss of civil rights ... diversion of resources
... arrests and detainment of Middle Easterners ... no trace of any sleeper
cells in the US ... irony of port-ownership flap
- U.S. Power and Neo-Imperialism ... triggering event ... post-Cold
War power ... manipulating the American public ... historical precedent in
communist fear ... parallels to the
War on Terror
- Escaping the "War on Terror" Trap ... know your enemy
... cool the rhetoric ... Iran ... hope in changed leadership ... the emporer's
clothes ... fear of speaking the truth ... the nuclear question ... finding
the tipping point toward sane policy
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